It Gets To Be Easy

Astrology as a Tool for Self Discovery and Healing with Kelsey Conway

Katie (k.smithoilsfitness) & Shauna (sbell.wellness) Episode 70

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What if the stars could help you understand yourself more deeply? Kelsey Conway joins us for a fascinating exploration of how astrology can serve as a powerful tool for self-discovery and personal growth.

We dive into the "Big Three" - your Sun, Moon, and Rising signs - demystifying what each represents and how they influence your authentic expression. Rather than simply telling you "what" these placements are, Kelsey beautifully explains "why" they matter, describing astrology as your cosmic blueprint that reveals the lessons you're here to learn.

The conversation moves beyond surface-level horoscopes to explore how understanding your astrological makeup can help you recognize patterns, embrace your authentic self, and approach relationships with greater compassion. As Kelsey points out, astrology isn't about putting yourself in a box—it's about finding your way out of one by peeling back layers of societal conditioning.

Whether you're astrology-curious or skeptical, this episode offers practical ways to explore this ancient wisdom system. From following the moon's daily movements to using apps like The Pattern, we share accessible entry points for beginning your own journey of cosmic self-discovery.

Most powerfully, we discuss how astrology serves as what Shauna calls a "compassion tool"—helping us understand both ourselves and others with greater empathy and acceptance. By recognizing the higher and lower expressions of our signs, we gain the awareness needed to consciously choose our most authentic path forward.

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Speaker 2:

Welcome to it Gets To Be Easy Podcast where you're granted permission to live your most healthful and joy-filled life with ease.

Speaker 1:

We are your hosts, katie and Shauna, and together we've been cracking the code to creating our own realities with ease, and now we've set out to help you grow confident in this too.

Speaker 2:

Welcome back to the show, friends. We're so excited today we have my friend, kelsey Conway, here on the show. Kelsey is a wife, mom, a creator. She is committed to a lifestyle and, I would say, a gift for expressing and connecting through astrology, healing and spirituality. She is on a spiritual journey and enjoys sharing the highs and lows of this process through her creative self-expression and, you guys, she's really good at it. She doesn't consider herself an astrologer, but astrology has been an incredible tool that she personally really taps into to help her with healing, deconditioning and just growing over the past five years. Kelsey loves to share about astrology you guys, all the insights that she gets and she learns to help her be more aligned, just fully, with her most authentic self, and she loves connecting with like-minded souls who love to think about all of this too, and so that's what we're here doing today. Welcome, kelsey, we're so grateful that you're here.

Speaker 3:

Yay, thank you, I'm so excited to be here.

Speaker 2:

Okay, you guys listeners, we've got to ask are you familiar with the astrology term? Your big three? So this is what you might see if you're looking into horoscopes as your sun, your moon and your rising signs. You might have heard them that way. So we thought it would be fun just to focus our conversation in on that a little bit today. On our previous episode, we actually kind of talked about how we just use these things as a curiosity tool and kind of follow the breadcrumbs and go with it for what it means, as we're connecting to ourselves more. So we're going to do that today through this conversation and we know, like whatever unfolds in the conversation, there are things and we always trust that there are things that those of you who are listening are going to grab, whatever nuggets are intended for you today. So let's do this. Girls Excited.

Speaker 1:

Awesome. Yes, okay, I know we're going to have a lot of chuckles today, so there's that, and, as always, like, just like Shauna said, take what we need from this and build off of it. So let's dive in, though, and, kelsey, can you help our readers understand, like, what are the big three? Like, what does sun, moon and rising signs represent, and how do they influence our life and our personalities?

Speaker 3:

Yeah for sure. So before I go into that, I want to give a quick little tidbit. Astrology is an incredible tool for self-growth and healing and aligning to your highest potential, and I personally this is just my mindset and belief around it and why I love it so much. But I believe that we choose certain lessons and challenges and opportunities in our life, and so, for me, astrology is like our cosmic blueprint almost, and so our sun, moon and rising can give us such great insight into the lessons that we came here to learn.

Speaker 3:

And so astrology is this like I said, it's a blueprint, but it's taken by the day, time and place of your birth, and so I'll get into the sun, moon and rising and how you calculate those and what exactly they mean the sun, moon and rising and how you calculate those and what exactly they mean. But it really can give us insight into the lessons we came here to learn how to navigate them and how to just navigate them with more ease so that we can connect to, like the truest essence of us, the core of who we are, aside from all the conditioning and learned behaviors that come along the way are aside from all the conditioning and learned behaviors that come along the way. So that's a little tidbit of it, but I'll start with the sun sign, if that's okay. Do you guys know your sun signs?

Speaker 3:

Yes we do. We did our homework. Yay, okay, tell me each of your sun signs.

Speaker 2:

So I'm a Taurus. We're my sun sign, yes. Yeah, I'm a Viraurus. We're my sun sign, yes.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I'm a Virgo Awesome, Okay. So so much there. Your sun is like your sense of self. It is, I believe it's what we are here to grow into. That's like the big one for me, what we're here to grow into, what brings us fulfillment. I think it's like think of the sun. It's like the big one for me, what we're here to grow into, what brings us fulfillment. I think it's like think of the sun. It's like the life force, energy. It's your expression and like your core identity.

Speaker 3:

A lot of parts of our sun sign are what make us really unique. And, if you didn't know, the sun goes. It's calculated by the month that you were born, and so the sun moves through the 12 zodiac signs in one year. So this is one of the things that can be just an assumption about astrology. It's like, oh, all Taurus suns are the same, or all Virgo suns, you must be the same personality, but it's so far from the truth and it's just one of the biggest misconceptions about astrology.

Speaker 3:

So never go based off of, like Shauna was saying, you know your horoscope if you look at like your sun sign. If it does not resonate, it's because you are a unique being with a very unique chart and your sun sign is just a little blip like part of it. It is a big part, but there's so many other things that go into your chart that make you unique. So don't just focus on sun, moon or rising, and usually if this is another tidbit if you are listening or finding your horoscope, always go by your rising sign. Read for your rising sign first. It's usually based on your rising sign. So, um yeah, do you have any questions about what I've shared so far or any comments?

Speaker 2:

No, I love that. You know, for me, I love what you said about that sense of self. Like I, that's definitely how I look at my Taurus sign. Like that, that is what resonates for me. Um, you know, for me personally it's like I really do value like deep connection and authentic, authentic relationships. Like that really is like kind of the essence of what my expression of Taurus is for me.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I love that. No, I see that too. And Taurus is. It's such a beautiful sign. It's like one of the most grounded earth signs, so I love that. You said that your sense of self is that way Cool.

Speaker 1:

What about you? I think? I just want to reiterate the fact that, like you were saying, like you could be a Virgo and someone else could be a Virgo, you could have the same birthday. You can be completely different, because I think about my boys.

Speaker 1:

their birthdays are two days apart and they are polar opposites, and then even my husband and I I remember early on, his mother was like you guys are both Virgo. This is never going to work, and I'm like we're 10 days apart, two years and 10 days, but we're totally different versions of Virgo. Two years and 10 days, but like we're totally different versions of Virgo. So I I totally resonate with that piece. The question I would have, though and I'm sure you'll get to this too is just giving when you say, like, focus on your rising sign you know when you find traditional horoscopes or people are just like learning into that piece, like how do you differentiate that?

Speaker 3:

How do you differentiate that? How do you differentiate between?

Speaker 1:

like picking your rising, Just like your sun sign. Yeah, your rising sign.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so they do it. This is a little bit of where astrology becomes past the basics, like the basics. But when you're looking at, like your chart I don't know if you've ever seen an astrology chart, but it kind of looks like a big pie and so, depending on your rising sign which I could go ahead and say what your rising sign is but it's calculated by the exact time and place of your birth and it's where whatever sign was coming up on the Eastern horizon, so it's kind of like a snapshot and so, based on your rising sign, that is where your rising sign can tell you what zodiac sign rules the house in your chart. So like the piece of pie, and so that's usually how they do the horoscopes is astrologers will look at the rising sign and say, oh, like today, the moon is in Aquarius. So if you are a Virgo, rising Aquarius rules your sixth house. So they're going to give you a horoscope based on the themes of Aquarius being in the sixth house. So they do that for each sign and so that's kind of how astrologers will get a broad horoscope for your rising sign. So I just suggest most of them do it based on your rising sign.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, cool, yeah, hope that makes sense. It gets a little confusing. It can be confusing once you get into all the details.

Speaker 2:

So Well, I think some of it too like. I think we should just go there and say, like Katie, you had that aha of like well, not even an aha, you knew, but you're like, let me double check right that you know all of your signs are in Virgo. So I think that that's a little bit of where that question is coming from for you.

Speaker 3:

So true, you're right, I didn't even think about that when she was asking that. But yeah, so you just check Virgo every time, every time, through and through. It's Virgo.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, when I got that birth chart not like you know, meeting done, she goes huh. I was like what she's like? Huh, and I'm like oh okay, all right.

Speaker 3:

It's a great thing. I love it.

Speaker 1:

We'll get there guys.

Speaker 2:

All right.

Speaker 2:

Shanna, I think you're up next it, we'll get, we'll get there, guys, all right, I think you're, you're up next. Uh, yeah, yeah. So I think we kind of started talking about this a little bit, but like, let's um, you know, kelsey, can you share some like real life examples of how, like us and our listeners um can understand, like how the big three can like help us personally through things like self-awareness, decision-making, just even navigating, like challenges, but also, I want to say, navigating celebrations too, because I think when we can authentically connect to those pieces, it's like a celebration part too.

Speaker 3:

Yeah for sure. So just a tidbit too is that you know all the 12 zodiac signs are like the 12 archetypes. So, as with any archetype, you know there's a higher expression and there's a lower expression, there's the light and there's the shadow. So I think one of the biggest pieces in you know navigating your astrology or kind of understanding it more, is you can have so much awareness when you learn. Okay, for example, you know I'm a Leo sun. Okay, for example, you know I'm a Leo son.

Speaker 3:

Leos are bold. They're meant to be confident and be like confident in being fully seen and in the light, right. So like that is the highest expression of a Leo. But the lower expression is maybe playing small or not feeling so confident or comfortable and being fully seen. So just in that simple like knowing your sun sign.

Speaker 3:

For myself, when I noticed that I'm maybe playing small or I'm feeling uncomfortable and sharing my full self, I'm like ding, ding, ding. This is an indicator that you're kind of there's a shadow here or there's something that is maybe blocking that full expression, right? So for a Virgo, you know you are practical and detailed and you have such great like abilities to be a problem solver, so that's like the highest part, like you're a natural problem solver in helping others and serving others. The lowest expression, or the lower expression in the shadow, would be using that analytical mind to be self-critical or perfectionism, right. So once you learn the shadow, you can easily see how that starts to play out in so many different areas of your life, and that alone, I feel like, is huge.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's very powerful and that's something I you know. I think we touch on that a little bit throughout. So many different episodes here on the show, like we are, have been encouraging. Like sometimes we do have to be comfortable with the uncomfortable right. So like being able to be really aware of those shadows is like actually how we kind of springboard and amplify ourselves into having that higher expression that you're talking about.

Speaker 3:

So yeah, I love that tie in, exactly for sure, and you know your, your moon. I didn't really touch on the moon earlier, but the moon, your moon, is like your, your emotional needs and I feel like it's who you really are at your core, like when no one's around you. You know, so that can give you a lot of insight into how you make decisions. You know as a give you a lot of insight into how you make decisions. You know as a would you say you're an Aries moon, right?

Speaker 2:

I am.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, an Aries moon, aries moon, or an Aries in general, loves to take action, or might even be like impulsive in making decisions, or like be very passionate and taking risks Right. So, if you know, would you say that that's true about you?

Speaker 2:

by the way. Yeah, I think so. I think the expression of it for me is more like I have this really true sense of knowing a lot of times and so it will be a quick thing, because it's just like, if I don't spend time thinking about it, I'm just going with it. Because it's like like I have this real core knowing that that's what I'm doing.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, for sure. So that might play into how you make decisions, because it's just like an instinctive thing. So yeah, our sun moon rising can give us a lot of insight into navigating growth challenges and opportunities, for sure.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 1:

Like you just explained, and I just wrote this down, it's like if you're understanding what's kind of holding you back, it helps you work through it more quickly or just have more awareness to it and give yourself that grace where you're needed to. And it's no secret, like perfectionist tendencies is absolutely a huge piece of something that I constantly am looking at and trying to overcome, and so I think I love how you phrase that, because I think that really helps our listeners be like how am I going to use this in my life?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think one of the big things for that. We're always saying that like we're not fixing something broken, so it doesn't make it like a bad or a good Right, it's just like there's this lower expression, like I want our listeners to hear what you said about that. It's just a lower expression and we were able to see like oh, if we amplify and put the light to it, it actually like expresses you know higher and to our authentic self.

Speaker 3:

So that's really important for our listeners to hear, for sure, and I think you know, like I said too, this is a snapshot. A snapshot like our blueprint and these are all things that like we're growing or learning and growing throughout our whole entire lifetime and I know it's a Virgo I'm like I want to get this done, like I want to learn this, learn this lesson, move on, but like you have to give yourself so much grace and just realize that, like this is a lifelong thing, you're not like it's an up and down. You're going to be in the higher expression, some days lower expression, and it's just like it's an up and down. You're going to be in the higher expression, some days lower expression, and it's just like it's just a big roller coaster and no one's got it figured out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I know I've kind of been reflecting on that lately with some things going on and just like work relationships too, and you know I do like value that deep connection. But then I realized too that, like you know, a rising sign being like how people like how we dawn on people too, that, like you know a rising sign being like how people like how we dawn on people, right, I know that sometimes like the first impression is that I am like intense and then I like get frustrated or upset, like no, you're not seeing.

Speaker 2:

Like I'm actually like really grounding and I'm actually reassuring and I'm actually here to like help you have that confidence in you you know, express your confidence, you know, but sometimes it it's like it's not seen that way at first, and so then there's this like this dance that we're trying to do to make those relationships kind of flow. So it's just been a really cool thing since I've moved into a new position recently too, with with my work. It's just like I'm loving how this is also allowing me to reflect in that way and not feel so frustrated with, like maybe, what someone else is perceiving in the moment and just being able to talk about it and to work through it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I know, I love that and that's like the beauty of you know us and like being so unique in our charts. It's like you are a Scorpio rising and that has so much depth and passion to you. But you're also a Taurus which is very grounded, so it's like just this beautiful, like dynamic thing and we can't just pinpoint it to one thing. You know, I can't just be like, oh, you are just just a Taurus. It's like, no, there's so much complexity to you and to each and every one of us. And one thing I'll say is, once you're learning astrology and like relationships, you can start to see the underlying complexities of each other. When you kind of learn those things, you know and it really helps you grow and like better love the people around you. You know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's a compassion tool, like that's what I'm seeing it as it's like oh yeah, yes, okay, I get that. I see you I see you.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yeah, so of course we start these. We always have these prescribed conversation topic, you know, leading us through, but we're already into this. Do you have any other ways that you you want to point out that we can use these tools for clarity or continued self-discovery? We've been talking about it, but anything specific you wanted to to chat on?

Speaker 3:

anything specific I don't know. I mean, I like to. I could go into like details with like your sun, moon or rising. It's really up to you guys. Do you have any like specific questions when it comes to knowing about that or anything?

Speaker 1:

I'm just thinking like, oh, go ahead, katie, go ahead. No, no, she was just like we're not just all Virgo, I'm like, but what if you are? I think you know we're always a couple of steps ahead of the listener. So if you were really just someone who is like trying to, truly be like. I want to use this as a tool You've talked about, like looking at your rising signs. You know, say they wanted to kind of use this on a monthly, quarterly basis. How would you go about really leaning in?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, well, there's so many different ways and you know everyone goes about it differently, especially on depending on their astrology. Um, as a Virgo, I love to research things and dive deep, so that's why it became something that just naturally fit into my life. I was just naturally curious. The more that I learned, I wanted to know more. So, starting out, I love that you said you had a reading too, katie. I think that's a great start is to get your own reading and then dive deeper into the things that you get from that. And I do have a couple of people I can recommend for readings, but that and I have to mention the Pattern app I was just about to say- it Talk about the.

Speaker 3:

Pattern app. Yes, the Pattern app is great for, like, if you want to know about your astrology but you don't really want to do the researching and diving into all of the looking up everything on your own. The pattern app will give you your, your chart, the aspects, like all of your placements past the sun, moon and rising, and go into depth and detail about it, and I have found it to be so incredibly spot on and I think it's a really beautiful way to learn about yourself using astrology without you doing the hard, deep research work. But it really helps you to see, like, even on the pattern app, it'll give you like, oh, the moon is in Aquarius today. It'll. It'll tell you about how that's impacting you, or how the different transits and the planets moving impacts you, and it is, it's so good. I'm sure Sean could say more too, but you have to tell us about how you feel about it, cause it's been so helpful for me too, even as much as I know about astrology.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I love it, I think it really, you know it. One it's going to keep something in your vault, right, so you're going to be able to kind of keep looking back when you're curious or you have deeper thoughts about it, or even beyond sun, moon and rising, you know there's all the other astrology components in there and so you can kind of dive into those. You know, as I call them, like breadcrumbs a lot of times, because, like something is going to really bring my attention or maybe I'm doing some shadow work and I want to look at that it's. It's really just going to be what you said, like I feel like it's better, or for me it has felt more um, focused in versus like just Googling it or something like that.

Speaker 2:

Um, right, it'd be my preference for it and I love the little insights that it gives. You know it is like a daily connect in. You know we talk about that a lot of times how we'll have a routine going on in our. You know I call a morning workshop or, katie, I know you mentioned on social media like morning magic, right, like sometimes those things ebb and flow, but having something like that that's kind of like nudging your attention is a really cool tool to like help you go deeper if you're feeling drawn to that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, exactly, I love that, and when you said that, it just made me, it clicked and made me think of something which is a huge way that I really connect to and relate to. Astrology is, and it's very simple If you are a beginner and wanting to start learning on your own, of course, starting with, like learning the zodiac signs and their themes, signs and their themes and one way I love to do this is by looking at what zodiac sign the moon is in each day and you start to really understand the themes of each sign. And so I follow and do this what's called a moon scope. Her name is the cosmic latte on Instagram, but she has a moon scope for like $6 a month and she sends you detailed things for like a summary for your day, based on where the moon is, based on like a little bit for your rising sign, the aspects the planets are making, and it's like literally the biggest, like energy, it's like just a vibe, it's like how are you going to be feeling today? These are some things to watch out for, like the moon is making this aspect.

Speaker 3:

This is how you might feel, and I've used it for over a year now and I journal with it every single morning and even like just knowing hey, the moon is an Aquarius and I'm actually an Aquarius moon today. So, because our moon is like who we are, at our core, and when no one else is around, when the moon is an Aquarius and that's mine too I feel like. So me, I just feel more me. It's just a beautiful thing, and once you start to even if you don't journal, but when you do do that you start to really gain a gap. I don't know what I'm trying to say there. When you do that, you really start to understand and gain understanding for the zodiac signs and how they relate to you and what's really going on with you underneath the surface, and so it's a really beautiful tool for growth and healing. And so, yeah, going with by the moon, for sure one of the top ways to start, I would say.

Speaker 2:

I love that and we just talked earlier about how it was a compassion tool for other people. But what you just said was, like I was just hearing, like compassion for yourself and then celebration for yourself, depending on where you know that moon is for you. So that's that's a really cool, simple way to go into it. I love that you shared that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, thanks.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, thanks, all right, let's see Any other ways that you, knowing our signs, may see the big three playing out as like how we approach our work, our relationship, our personal growth. You don't have to go into all of them, but just anything that you can kind of see as you're, you know, feeling into those things that you know about us.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, for sure. Okay, well, I have a question because I thought about this Did you share your buying a car story here on your podcast?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think pieces of it. Yeah, they're aware.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, okay, because I was thinking about it. Whenever you told me you were big three, I was like oh my goodness, even in terms of decision making. It came so clear You're a Scorpio rising thing.

Speaker 2:

I love that you're saying that, because sometimes I'm like, oh my gosh, I went a little deep on that one.

Speaker 1:

But for some people are like why wouldn't?

Speaker 2:

you just buy the car. But it really was me being nudged to like allow that that deeper you know expression to come to fruition with that process, so I love that.

Speaker 3:

you see that that was really cool, yeah, and, of course, katie, I resonate with you so much because I'm also a Virgo rising, and so, whatever your rising sign is the planet that rules.

Speaker 3:

That sign is actually your chart ruler. It's a little bit deeper into the astrology, so, having like a chart ruler the same as you, we probably have similar themes coming up, which is big around Virgo, and so I don't, you know, know a whole lot about you, but I do know that you're also a mom and that it feels like service is a big part of your life and also through health and wellness, which are really big Virgo themes, and so like maybe finding practical ways through creating a healthy environment, like not just for yourself but for your family, in a way that fosters like overall wellness and growth and wellbeing, and that's like so Virgo and I can see that even from just like you know, not knowing you very long, or looking at your Instagram page you know and like loving oils and sharing out with not just your family but the people around you, like very service oriented and health oriented. So I think that that's really beautiful, and there's always highs and lows to it, but I love seeing that play out in real time. Oh, thank you. You're welcome.

Speaker 3:

Very good, you're welcome.

Speaker 1:

Very good, this is great. So, of course, like we've talked a lot about different ways, I've been taking notes on like different ways people can dive in with this and really start to learn for themselves. But, you know, do you have any other thoughts on? So you talked about the? Um, the pattern app, or, you know, checking into your moon sign each day? Um, is there anything else that you would recommend or people to follow, including yourself?

Speaker 1:

um so that people can really start to kind of, you know, scratch the surface, learn a little bit more, get sucked in.

Speaker 3:

Yeah for sure. So, yeah, I um, I'm all about connecting with people who are like at the beginning of that journey, because I think it's such a special place to be when you're just now kind of like diving into it. So I mostly share, you know, I because I love the moon and the moon is in my sixth house of like daily routines and habits, so I love like I feel like I'm lunar led, so I share a lot of like moon tips, like oh, the moon is in this today and this is how you can like take full advantage of it. So that's more my speed and I again, like I said, I think it's a great way to start. But, yeah, I do have a couple of people like the cosmic latte Latte and one is Sophia Williams.

Speaker 3:

Astrology and I love following and finding someone that you really resonate with on Instagram is important. So usually you'll find that, like the Cosmic Latte I shared, she's also a Virgo rising. So you'll find the people that you resonate with most probably have you know one of a similar big three as you and that's who you're really going to probably relate to their style and how they share. So definitely look around at different astrologers and find when you resonate with and I highly recommend getting a reading and let's see if there's anything else. The Pattern app, I would say if you're a reader, I love the book Spiritual Astrology by Jan Spiller I think that's her name. If you're a book gal, she's a great one. And yeah, I think that's probably my tips Definitely find an astrologer you love and resonate with. Get a reading, get the pattern app, follow the moon.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I love that, you know. I will just put it out there too, because it's something I've personally played with. I know sometimes people have misconceptions or maybe even some fear around using AI to ask questions, using AI to ask questions, but I have developed a relationship with my particular AI that I think over time it has gotten to be more specific towards me versus, like, if I Google something, and so when I can ask more deeper, specific questions.

Speaker 2:

So if I'm already on the trail of something and I'm kind of like having some curiosity, I can ask for like hey, can you give me some journal prompts to help me explore X, y, z? And so it's not that it's like telling me what it is, but it's kind of nudging me and encouraging me. So I wanted to put that out there too, because I have found it valuable to just kind of use that tool that's there for us as well.

Speaker 3:

No, I love that and you know, since you had said that when we spoke last, I kind of started doing that with my AI and letting it get to know me, and I just set my chart and like, and every time you kind of touch on little things, it'll remember it, and I think it's a really great way to allow you to explore it more deeply. So I think that's a great thing for sure.

Speaker 2:

Cool, I'm glad you're loving it too. Real quick. I know that we want to keep this bite size, but I talked about misconception there for a second with AI. But even I think you mentioned in the beginning and I want to make sure, if anyone's listening in and maybe have had some misconceptions about astrology or just feeling like I don't know or you know, hearing some things that maybe aren't maybe I don't like to use the word good, but good perceptions of it how can people use this as a tool rather than just like entertainment? I think sometimes it gets looked at as just like that's just for entertainment.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I know, sometimes it can be seen that way and I understand you know it is just kind of a misconception.

Speaker 3:

That's a really good question Again, I think going back to learning like simply the basics which is why I love that we talked about like the sun, moon and rising but you can gain so much understanding as to the really unique parts of you that we've been conditioned to do otherwise, and that can be as simple as like, yeah, how you make decisions, but even you know how you are meant to work or work out or eat.

Speaker 3:

You know all of these things can be seen in your natal chart and, of course, we all have free will. So you know me and Katie, even though we're both Virgos, we could express that completely differently, but I think once you start to get into your astrology, you can see, just go past any deconditioning or conditioning sorry, go past any conditioning that we've taken on over time and really start to just unravel those layers, and it can be the greatest tool for deconditioning and coming back to like just who you really are at your core, aside from what you learned growing up or how your parents raised you, et cetera, et cetera. So it really is such a great tool for deconditioning and growing and healing along the way.

Speaker 2:

I love that. I think that's a really good way to wrap, but before we go, kelsey, you were sharing other things, but I want our listeners to know how to stay connected with you. So share specifically what your social media is so that they can get LinkedIn with you, and, of course, listeners will put in the show notes too. So you have it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you can find me on Instagram. My handle is it's at Kelsey R Conway and, yeah, I love to connect that way, also have a sub stack, but I'm mostly on Instagram.

Speaker 2:

Love it. Kelsey, thank you so much for being here with us today. Just such an honor. You do have a gift. I know you're using this for you, but we're so grateful that you have shared it with us too, and listeners. I hope that you're excited about it and you're going to get some nuggets from this too.

Speaker 3:

Yay, thank you guys so much Thanks, Kelsey Yay.

Speaker 1:

Thank you guys so much. Thanks, Kelsey.

Speaker 2:

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