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Awakening to Your True Path and Purpose - An Interview with Spiritual Life and Business Coach Sarah Hagstrom
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What if a single moment could change the entire course of your life? Join us as we sit down with Sarah Hagstrom, a spiritual life, and business coach who turned a devastating health crisis into a path of profound personal transformation. Sarah's journey from health coach to business mentor is fueled by her resilience and unwavering faith, particularly in the face of financial and spiritual depletion. Her story underscores the critical role of adapting to change, and the power of online platforms in growing a business, especially during turbulent times like the pandemic.
In this episode, Sarah opens up about a painful layover in Dallas that ignited a spiritual awakening, revealing how tools like awareness, acceptance, and honest self-reflection can help us overcome our deepest limiting beliefs. By engaging in activities that elevate our vibration—like spending time in nature or connecting with loved ones—Sarah shows us how to transform suffering into self-discovery. We also touch on the liberation that comes from surrendering to your unique path and the peace found in stillness, even when society pushes for constant activity and comparison.
Finally, we delve into the importance of Zen living and self-care, drawing from Sarah's experience with Bell's palsy to highlight how emotional stress can manifest physically. Learn how incorporating Zen principles into everyday life and making conscious decisions to remain calm can positively impact your surroundings. This conversation is a treasure trove of practical advice for leading a more mindful, peaceful, and productive life, and it underscores the necessity of slowing down and prioritizing personal well-being amidst life's demands. Tune in to gain valuable insights into spiritual growth, resilience, and the transformative power of self-care.
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Speaker 2:Hey friends, welcome to this special episode. We have a guest here with us today and I'm so excited for you to meet her. I just know that you're going to fall in love with her. I met Sarah actually as I launched my back injury healing journey a couple years back, and I 100% know that this was a divinely appointed gift to both of us. Sarah Hegstrom is a spiritual, life and business coach, most known for helping women achieve their dreams with confidence and ease. She's the co-founder of Inner Flow Co. A spiritual growth site for women who want to explore their inner transformations. Additionally, she hosts the why Can't I podcast, which empowers women to overcome their past and act as their higher selves. Without further ado, let's welcome Sarah to the show. We're so glad you're here.
Speaker 3:Thank you. Thank you, shauna and Katie. I'm so glad to be here and I love when you're introducing me. Shauna, you did the why can't I. You did a kind of like a pose for everybody listening and it was so great because I feel like that is the energy of my podcast is like why can't we, as women, do the things that we want to do? And my podcast has a little bit of watch me in there, cause it's like, hey, why can't I do it and watch me? And you fully embodied that. I know the listeners will have to use their imagination with that, but it was so good. So thank you, thank you, thank you for having me yes, welcome.
Speaker 1:So excited, so we'd love to just kick this off and just have you bring us on your journey. How did you get to where you are today? In your spiritual journey, is there any particular transformative event or lightning experience where it like really had you healing and embracing spirituality on your journey? Like what prompted this shift for you?
Speaker 3:Yeah, such a good question. So for me, I never in a million years would have thought I would be where I am right now in so many capacities, like in my physical location. I'm living in Mexico, In my physical embodiment. I have a wicked sunburn going on right now. For the viewers, I'm glad this isn't on video.
Speaker 3:I'm healing from Bell's palsy and that is just like the tip of the iceberg in terms of what I've been through to get here and so kind of like Shauna was saying in the introduction, I think a lot of it started with a physical health crisis and I think that a lot of us find spirituality during that time when it's like for me it was like I have no hope, no faith, and I am a very optimistic person. If you go to my Instagram, you will see all the photos are of me smiling. I am just like happy to be on this earth, I'm happy to be here, and so for me to get to a place where I wasn't sure if I wanted to continue on like it had to be like really dark and I was looking for everything. You know, I was looking for anything. I was throwing money at the problems, right? Um, so much money like $20,000. I added it all up in a year $20,000, trying to find a solution and nothing was working. You know, and I'll get back to like kind of like what I was going through, but nothing was working. And I just had this moment where I was like, okay, like I need something, like please, like help me. Like universe, god, like whatever it is, like, help me, give me a sign.
Speaker 3:And that is when I found spirituality and got started down this completely different path. And so I started as a health coach and I was running my business and, for me, I was running my business. And then I had a lot of other health coach friends as I don't know if your listeners are health coaches or you guys, I know, shauna like connected with health coaches. You have a lot of people in your community. So I'm running my business, it's going good and I'm having clients and other health coaches be like Sarah, how are you doing this? How are you growing your business? How are you putting your message out there? How are you doing all of these things? And that was in 2018. And I was like, oh, I'll teach you. It was really hard for me. I was hanging up flyers, I was doing all these things and eventually I was like oh, I need to go online, so I go online doing my thing. Other health coaches are like can you help me? And so in 2018, 2019, I started doing more of that, helping other health coaches with their businesses.
Speaker 3:And it was hard at first to get people and this is the thing that I always want to like stress when people are like the world is not changing. They're like Sarah, it's so bleak, it's so bad. Like is there any hope? I'm like you guys, I promise you, we have grown so much in such a short amount of time. Because in 2018, I was like you guys, let's go online, it's easier, we can reach more people. Like, we can do it. You know they're like I hate social media, I can't do it. You know I'm like no, you can do it, I promise. Um, and then COVID hit right. And then everybody who I'd been saying that to and I've been sharing this message on podcasts and talking about how, if you go online, you don't have to go to five different coffee shops and put up business cards Again, not that there's anything wrong with that, but I'm like I think it will streamline the process. And so then COVID hit and nobody's going out and they're like Sarah, I'm ready, right, everybody's like, oh, I'm ready, like, teach me this online thing.
Speaker 3:And so my business really took off in 2020. Because everybody who was resistant was like, well, I have no other choice, like I'll learn this now. And so my business really grew. Um, and I brought on a team. You know, I was just.
Speaker 3:I think sometimes we think like, oh, there's like all this opportunity. I want to seize it Right. And that is coming from a place of well, for me not always, but for me it was coming from a place of scarcity of like this is the moment, let me seize it. Not from a like I'm so excited. I mean, I had a little bit of that, but I think more of it was like, oh, like I've been working so hard, it's finally here, like let me use this opportunity. So long story short, I got really burnt out doing that and I didn't even realize it because I did enjoy that work. I still do that work, but I'm operating in a different capacity, so I took on too much.
Speaker 3:I grew up in kind of like a dysfunctional home, and so I always had this mentality of like I need to take care of myself. If it's going to happen, I'm going to do it. I'm going to make it happen. And so I really was forcing my business flow and I started having back pain. It started out as glute pain and I was like man, like I just need to stretch it more. And this is also like a big shift for me, too is when my body would be in pain. I would think I need to do more. Right, and isn't that crazy. But that's like I was like I'm the fixer, I'm going to fix it. So I'm going to go to yoga, I'm going to go to the stretch lab, I'm going to go to massage. I'm like nothing's working. Chiropractor, nothing, okay, doctors, mris, you know all that. They're like oh, you need surgery, you need injections. I was like okay, injections. I was like surgery. I'm a health coach, I'm holistic, I don't really even take Advil, like you getting in there and operating again.
Speaker 3:I think that everybody's on their own path. You got to do what's right for you, but for me, I didn't have an injury, I didn't fall down the stairs you know what I mean Like I didn't get in a car accident and all of a sudden I have this disc bulge herniation going on, I had sciatica. Have you guys ever had sciatica? Yes, right, katie, I feel like a lot of moms tell me that they've had. I couldn't walk for six months. It got to that point six months. And so eventually, right, and I'm I was still running my business.
Speaker 3:I was doing like these big launches, like I'm being interviewed by Forbes, like all of this, like big stuff that I like thought I wanted, and I'm like I don't want any of it, like I just want to like lay down in peace and quiet and like get out of this pain. Well, it all kind of blew up and forced me to do that. I was getting ready for a conference, a health conference, and a lot of my clients were flying, and we rented a house in Miami and I was really looking forward to it, but I was in pain. You guys like listen to, this is crazy. I went to get my hair done. I couldn't even sit in a chair. Like I couldn't even sit in a chair, and I thought I was going to fly six hours. Oh, and I tried. I got on the flight.
Speaker 3:I made it halfway our layover in Dallas. I had to lay on the airport floor. Can you imagine laying on the airport floor. It is so gross and dirty, right, and I was like, babe, we, we got to go home. I like I can't do it, like if I'm in this much pain halfway through, there's no way. And that was my moment.
Speaker 3:And so we get back home, brutal, and all of my clients they're like posting on Instagram, like all these beautiful photos, and I was like happy for them, of course, but part of me was also like I don't want to sit home all weekend and watch them and be depressed and be sad, like I need to do something for myself. And I had heard about Gaia, which is, if you're not familiar, it's a conscious streaming service. It has a lot of like spiritual shows and things like that. And I was like let's just like download it and like let's watch it and let's see if I can get in a good headspace. And that is literally what opened me up to maybe this isn't happening to me, it's happening for me. Maybe there is a greater purpose and like maybe, even though I've been in pain for so long, I can get out of it, but I have to do it on my own. Yeah, so that's like the story and that's part of it, because we also have cell palsy and all of that, but that is really what started the spiritual journey.
Speaker 2:It's so powerful and there's so much there, so so much there. And I think that both of us I know our listeners can't see us at the moment, but Katie and I are both like just looking at each other like, holy crap, sarah's holding up this mirror to us right, and so we're seeing all of you in us as well, and we know that our listeners so many of them are tapping into that and feeling that as well, as you share. And I just had that moment. You know, sarah, you turned me on to Gaia during my injury, but I don't think I had the moment until you just said it right then about how healing that was to be able to turn off what would kind of be noise and seeing what other people were doing and maybe what I was missing out on, and come to a space that really supports us and being able to go within to get what we need in that moment. So, thank you, as you just shared that. That was so beautiful but, yeah, so much was coming through there.
Speaker 2:But something I was hearing that you were conquering during all of that was so many limiting beliefs. We talk about that on the show a lot. I think you were saying how you were going at things in life, kind of forcing them, making it happen. Right, we get in that multi-passionate energy and we're just going to make everything happen and, which is so interesting, how it can spin and bring us into that scarcity. And so, yeah, I'd love to hear a little bit about how you notice those things right and, like, what are some of the practices you do to kind of observe that in yourself and maybe, like we call it, flip the script here on the show, like what brings you to a space that you're able to observe that, maybe with less judgment, and kind of flip it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I always tell my clients that I like when I'm triggered, I like when I notice myself getting like upset or bothered or overworked or overwhelmed, because then I get to use my tools right, I get to work through and see like, am I really practicing what I preach here, right? Um, and so for me, you know, I teach like an inner work model and like the first stage of the inner work is awareness and acceptance, right, so just being aware and accepting what is. And so for me it usually comes to feeling, because I'm a big feeler, and so I'll notice like I'm not feeling calm and centered and in alignment, and so I'll just kind of like, explore that, like what's going on. And the more that you practice this, you know, I also often say, like, in order for this to work, the spiritual journey, this inner work journey, right, like the transformation that you want, you have to be honest with yourself, right, like you have to be really honest. And people are just like, oh, I don't know what I want, you know, I don't know what to do, and it's like, just take some time. Just take some time, just get quiet, you know, go out in nature, like whatever it is to you like think about the place that makes it. You can do it right now. Right, take a moment and just think about the place that makes you happy, makes you feel the most like yourself, makes you feel the most connected, and try to get to that place, even just like something that makes you happy. Thinking about it, it shifts your perspective. My best friend she has twins, and I feel like kids are like my favorite. Me and Peter don't have kids yet, but they're just so sweet and so I can just think of those twins and instantly I notice my vibration raises right. And when your vibration raises, you're aware of what's going on and you can see solutions to what's happening in your life right. But when you're in a lower vibration, when you're aware of what's going on and you can see solutions to what's happening in your life, right. But when you're in a lower vibration, when you're in the state that notices the problems and the chaos and everything right, you're not going to find the solution there. So you got to raise your vibration up, and doing something that makes you happier, connects you to Zen, is really like how you're going to do that.
Speaker 3:Another thing that I practice a lot and this was huge in my healing journey is um, I used to have a quote on my wall. We recently moved. I feel like maybe I've integrated it so I don't need it, so maybe that's why it's not on my wall anymore. But it would say love or fear. Right, am I operating from a place of love or am I operating from a place of fear? Because people often say like, oh, sarah, you're so brave, like the way that you show up in your struggles.
Speaker 3:But the secret, you guys like I'm a big scaredy cat.
Speaker 3:No, I am. I'm terrified to do all the things you know, to go live, to go on podcasts, to put myself out there, like all of it. I actually do have fear inside of me, but I just check in and I'm like, what do I want to operate from? Right, cause, I can choose either one. And like I know, like my desire when I feel my most self is when I'm operating from love. And so I always, when I showed up here today, I was like I want to show up with these two beautiful women as my higher self speaking to their higher self. I want to show up as love. You know, I don't want to show up in fear, and so that really helps.
Speaker 3:You know love or fear or faith or fear, whatever you want to call it just kind of saying, okay, where am I operating? And just doing little check-ins. I know Sean and I we talked before about vibe checks right, where you can just set an alarm and see where are you vibrating at. You can do the same thing. How are you operating? Are you operating from scarcity? Are you operating from love? And just check in and over time you will move into Wow, that's so good.
Speaker 1:Thank you for just for being that way, operating from love and sharing. I think it's so important. And just some of the things that you're talking about, and I just want to pivot back to them because there's like we're in that same zone right now too, especially when you were like, when you're getting these body messages I mean, our episode that we just published today is about us really embracing this like self-love, self-compassion piece, because you said it here it's like when your body is in pain you were like I need to do more, like if that's not a slap in the face, I don't know. I don't know if anything could be more obvious right now, cause I definitely feel the same way, and so I'm just wondering it's like when you're in those feelings of defeat or like you feel, like you're I need to do more, like this concept of doing it from a place of love is it's hard and it's a constant going back to it.
Speaker 1:And you talked about just how you're like, well, I had this one thing and I've got this other thing going on. And so when you catch yourself in those moments like how do? Like what's the coaching like for yourself? Like realizing it's not going to happen right away and and being okay with that, but also understanding, like you can't, you can't sit here forever and and I think along the lines of flipping this script, but it's like how do you kind of pull yourself out?
Speaker 3:yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that it would surprise a lot of people to know how long I sat in it, like it was a long journey and I know that as hard-working women, ambitious women, that is like the worst thing, like it made my friend, like it was just so interesting when I was able to step back and we can talk about spirituality, because I think spirituality, it helps so much when you have this grasp of there's no good or bad, there's no right or wrong. Everything just is we're all just operating. We are not going to be rewarded for doing the most at the end of your life. It is not. You're not going to get a medal for making the most money you know, for, um, even impacting the most people the most, the most doesn't exist in the spiritual plane. The spiritual plane is just you being love, you evolving, you, remembering your worth. That's it, that's the whole point of it. And what happens is our personality and our ego is like but I got to do, I got to be the best, and it's like your soul doesn't care about that. Your soul just wants you to experience, just wants you to grow, just wants you to learn, evolve. At the end of your life, can you say like, yeah, where I started and where I am now, that's an evolution, right, and that could be self-love.
Speaker 3:Some people, in this lifetime, they will work on one thing. It will be money, it will be relationships, it will be forgiveness. Some people, they will work on a lot of things. Some of my clients often say, sarah, I feel like I've been working on integrating judgment for so long, you know, and like I see all these other people and they're just getting it so quick, you know, and it's like maybe they've done that in another lifetime, you know, maybe they've already been working on it for so long. And that's the problem with comparison. We don't know what anybody else's journey is like, you know, it's just it's pointless to do that. We are here on our own journeys, right, we are here on our own journeys. We have our own things to integrate, our own parts of our personality to integrate.
Speaker 3:And as soon as you realize that, for me it was liberating, it took the pressure off, I was like, oh, like I don't need to have the biggest business. I invested so much money in scaling my business, team members, advertising, all of this stuff and then, after my spiritual awakening, I was like I don't want any of it. I don't want to do any of that, I just want a simple life. I want to help people, I want to share my gifts, I want to be healthy, I want to watch sunsets with my husband and like I feel really good about that. Right, and that was like a huge shift because before I was like, oh, I'm going to have the biggest business Oprah's going to be calling me, you know and it's like no, like that was my ego, you know, and that's okay, there's no judgment towards that, it's just like the growth. But what I was saying, katie, was when I was healing.
Speaker 3:So it was May, when I was like I was supposed to go to this conference and I couldn't go. And it was from May to September May to like August and then September let's be real May to December. We're just keep pushing it. Yeah, it's like okay. And in August I started doing a mobility program, you know, but I couldn't fly home by December.
Speaker 3:So really, from the end of May to the end of December I did nothing. I didn't go on any trips, I didn't do any weekend anything. I laid in my backyard, I read, I watched Gaia and I just had so much peace around it because I had tried everything else. And when you exhaust everything, that's the moment where you're on the floor and you're like universe, show me a way, what am I supposed to do? I surrender, and some of us are more stubborn than others. I am stubborn, so it's going to take that for me to listen. Right, I've integrated that so I get the signs faster now. But I was so stubborn.
Speaker 3:But what I noticed, which was really interesting, was I noticed how much my friends and family had such a huge issue with it. They're like wait, you're not doing anything. Like what are you doing? What's going on? Where are you going? Wait, have you tried this? Have you tried that? Like they were so uncomfortable with stillness and I think that's very telling, right? So just checking in, like, how comfortable are you with slowing down and getting still? And if that feels really uncomfortable, what do you think that's about? Investigating that, looking into that, what do you think will happen? And a lot of times it's like oh, I feel like I'll be forgotten, abandoned, left behind, and that is the healing that needs to be done. That is the inner work.
Speaker 2:So, so powerful there, sarah, so much came through that and I just love what you're saying about. This truly is a soul experience and if we're not getting what we want, those check-ins are so important because we're just really putting ourselves in a place where we are constantly in comparison mode or even comparing ourselves to what our vision of ourself is. That maybe just isn't so connected with what our soul is here for. So love you for that for sure. And yeah, those check-ins with stillness we can't talk about that enough.
Speaker 2:On our show, katie and I both going down similar journeys on, you know when we were injured and how we created this new relationship with rest, um, you know, almost by you know, because we had to but also just how much of a gift that continues to be for us, um is incredible and and and that is I guess I don't know if you would say that, sarah, but that is where we're able to tune into our vibration more and know what that even means, right, because I think sometimes that can feel a little woo-woo to anybody who's new into talking about that and thinking about that. But that's really what you're talking about when you say vibration, right, it's just really being connected to that high source-based energy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly. And the language, again, it's so fascinating because you guys mark my words In a few years, vibration, spirituality, soul, it's going to be commonplace. And how I know this is because in 2010, me and my husband we weren't married at the time, we just graduated college and we went plant-based we're still plant-based to this day changed our diet and people thought we were crazy. They were like wait, you're not eating meat anymore. What are you guys going to eat? You're going to starve, you're going to die, like it was, like we were talking about aliens. And then you know, times have been changing, right, and now we have friends and family. They're like oh, like, I'm thinking about doing a meatless Monday. I'm like that's awesome. I'm thinking about juicing.
Speaker 3:People used to think I was bananas for putting fruit and vegetables in a juicer, right. But now it's like okay, like that's normal. You know a green smoothie. What are you drinking? That's green. They would say, right.
Speaker 3:And now it's come, and I feel like the same thing is going to start happening with with spirituality. People are opening up to it. It's going to become more commonplace, right, um, and really it starts with all of us. It starts with you guys having this conversation, listeners tuning in right. Like all of us, we do have an impact on the collective right. We have to focus on ourselves and changing ourselves in terms of really like what we desire and that energy and with vibration, really for me it's like I could just feel it. You know when, like, you're in a good energy place and you know when you're in a low energy place, right, and so vibration is just like doing the things that allow you to get into a good energy place.
Speaker 3:And people you know have definitely accused me over the years of being too positive, you know being too love and light. How can you be so positive when, like, there's all these terrible things going on in the world? You know when people are going through this or that, and I always am like I get it. You know, life can be like so hard and so challenging. It can be hard to see like why things are happening, but I have to choose to see the good in everything that's going on, because even in the worst situations, if we really try and tap in, there is positive that comes from it. There is some good that's within that you know, and so it's like just working on yourself so that you can start to see that.
Speaker 3:And the spiritual approach really shines light on. Everything really does happen for a reason. We just don't always know what that reason is, or we don't need to know what it is. You know, sometimes bad things happen, so it can bring us all together.
Speaker 3:You know some people. You know they are taking one for the team, so to speak, in terms of that. You know like it's like that happened to them and now all of these people who look to them can make changes, can shift. You know, and that's what I love you know, I've done health coaching, I've done business coaching, I do inner work, um, but the spiritual approach, it just shines this light that I noticed allows women to release, like the judgment, right, the self blame. It's like, oh, like there's a purpose to my life, there's a reason why I'm going through this. There's another one that you know I really help women with is the past. Oh, I did this in the past or this happened in the past, right, and that just burdens them, right, it weighs us down when we bring the past with us, you know, all over the place, and so the spiritual approach can be so powerful for that, oh my gosh that you don't need to know what the lesson is.
Speaker 1:What.
Speaker 3:Why not? I know, I know.
Speaker 1:That's such a powerful piece too and I love this, like this concept of surrendering that and the comfort with stillness, and I think the opposite side of that is, like you know, we talk a lot about prioritizing our time, building in good habits and rituals to protect that piece, and so I know I know you probably have practices and rituals and daily habits but can you help, if not us? This feels like a personal coaching session.
Speaker 2:You help if not us?
Speaker 1:this feels like a personal coaching session, listeners, whatever you need, but talk to us about, like, how do you integrate that in your day to day to get those subtle reminders to yourself but also keep you in that vibration, because I know it from my experience. I'm in this phase of life right now where I am grasping for that time, that 5, 10, 15 minutes of, like Katie, go back, check in with yourself, because it so quickly disappears if a kid wakes up too early or I sleep in 15 minutes. So talk to us about how we can kind of preserve that, even in the like busy and the messy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, no, such a good question, katie. So I want to introduce Zen status and activating the Zen within you, because I think a lot of times we're like, oh, like, I need to meditate, I need to, you know, go to a yoga class. I need to do all of these things in order for me to be calm and have my time and be at peace, but that's not always attainable. Kitty, you're a mom, right? Yeah, so going to a yoga class or making sure that you meditate Sometimes kids wake up early or they stay up late or things like that and so I think, being more fluid, right, and like just tapping into when you guys are going about your life, like, are you doing it from a place of that scarcity of like, if I don't have this, I'm not going to be calm, I'm not going to be peaceful, I'm not going to be happy. It's like, can you come to a place that I can be calm and peaceful and happy when my child wakes up and I don't get to meditate? Can I be calm and peaceful and happy when the meeting runs late? A lot of my clients say this all the time. They're like, oh, when I meditate, when I set my goals, when I do this, it's a great day, but, sarah, when I don't, it's terrible. It's a crazy rant here. I'm like that's the work, darling, that's the work, right there, right, that is a work. That we're doing is when it is crazy because you've mastered it and some people haven't, some people even you give them a full schedule or an empty schedule and they can't get quiet, they can't meditate, you know, and so that's their work. But some of us, we've got it when we have the time and space. It's when we don't have the time and space and that's when we really need to work on it. And so it's like how is your mindset and your process around when things don't go your way, and can you be calm within it? And Zen status really came from that place.
Speaker 3:What I noticed is so I came out of my back injury right, healed my back with mobility, so good. If anybody's struggling with back pain, anything like that, wants to heal it, naturally, message me. I'm like such an advocate. I'm like we got to be doing mobility guys. Like I'm not a big, you will not hear me say a lot of things. Everybody needs to be doing it, but mobility, big fan.
Speaker 3:So I healed my back feeling great, but it was so stressful. I'm here now and I'm talking to you guys and I'm like, oh, zen, and I'm like, oh, inner work. No, your girl was crying often and I needed that because I don't think I had cried for years. I think I bottled I know I bottled it up so I was crying, I was stressed, I was like what am I going to do in my emotional body? Right, we have different bodies, our emotional body. I was wrapped up in it. You know, think of like the biggest knot you could ever imagine, you know, um, a rubber band ball, like whatever you, I was in those emotions.
Speaker 3:So I came out of it right, feeling good, but then, like a month or two later, I started experiencing Bell's palsy. And Bell's palsy is uh, um, it paralyzes this nerve Right, and so your half of your face, usually just one side, gets paralyzed, it gets droopy, um and a bit. You know it comes from a virus. They say there's lots of different theories. I'm not a doctor, this is not medical advice, you know. Do your own research.
Speaker 3:But, um, my understanding is it comes from stress and stuckness. And I felt stuck for I mean really like six months, like before that, and I, I was so tangled up and I was so emotional in it. I was so tangled up and I was so emotional in it and I realized, you know, once I started experiencing Bell's palsy, I realized that I had let my emotions get too crazy. I just got wrapped up in them and I got stuck in them. And I think this kind of goes back to what you were saying, katie is like, how do we move out of this? Like we're in it, you know we're doing it, and I think that there's a difference between being in it and being at peace in it and being in it and fighting it. And I was fighting it and I was angry about it and I was upset about it and emotional. And so when I was experiencing Bell's palsy, I was like, oh, this can't happen again, sarah, like you can't get wrapped up in that, like you learned that lesson, you can't do that anymore.
Speaker 3:And so a lot of my friends, you know they like to go to like bougie hotels and they'll do like silent retreats and different things like that. And I love a bougie hotel, like I am all for it. That is my idea of a good time. But what I realized is we go to these and then we come back to our lives, right, and so we can be silent, we can be with ourselves for 48 hours a weekend, you know, a week maybe, if we're lucky, we get a whole week off, right. What a blessing to just take that time to be with ourselves.
Speaker 3:But then we go back to our lives and that's what really counts. That's what really matters is how are we in our day to day? And so Zen status. I was like, oh, I'm going to be Zen, I'm going to be like a monk in my life. You know, I'm going to activate that within. And so one of the principles, and you can think about this If you were Zen in your life, how would you be acting? Think about it, how would you be operating in your day? What would be the requirements, the rules for you? Because what would be the requirements, the rules for you? Because we all are different and at different periods in our life and have different things going on.
Speaker 3:But for me, I noticed and I've had this from a young age I grew up with a very anxious mother and I think I picked up on a lot of that, right. So, like moms, you guys have so much power. And so I picked up on a lot of that. And so I noticed for me I carried that anxiousness and so I noticed for me I carried that anxiousness and so I would notice I would just rush all day long. It's like, oh, you know, I have a meeting coming up, let me go pee, let me make something really quick, let me do this Like just trying to pack it all in, and even like I'm making dinner.
Speaker 3:I don't have to have dinner at a certain time. You know I'm making dinner. I don't want to take a break. I need to get all the way through dinner. I'm rushing, I'm anxious, you know what I mean. And so that is like the first rule for Zen status for me is no rushing. We're not doing that anymore. So that means I'm doing less, right? It's like okay, well, how do you do that? Like there's time commitments and all that. It's like I'm saying no more, I'm doing less and I'm okay with it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely. I mean, if I could ramble on exactly what I'm supposed to do today for my three children and their three sports and myself, and that's really where it's at. So it's like you crave the slow and if you get so caught up in this busy and this rush mentality is you're bound to get tied lost in it and, like you're saying, you just like get so wound up in that emotion and that feeling. And I think one of those things that I love is that that ability to recognize that and I think that's that's a key part of that daily habit is recognizing when you're in that heat of that.
Speaker 1:Okay, I've got all of these, these things to do. How am I going to do it all? When am I going to do it? I'm going to power through all of this and then I'm going to take a break, yeah, but instead, like I I've really tried to be like I'm going to carry my book with me and I'm going to read for 15 minutes in between the two practices. Yeah, yeah, just little things like that, and I think that hearing you talk about it too is like we overcomplicate it.
Speaker 1:And it doesn't have to be that like insane amount of like blocking the time, but even the beginning of this part you talked about like being okay with the kids waking up early, and that is something that, like, I've really had to work at. I'm like no, this is my time Like you're messing this up for me.
Speaker 1:I can't believe you started my day like this and I love this, this concept of just like your Zen status, of just being aware of it, and I think that's the first place it starts is feeling your blood pressure rise, feeling your shoulders tense up to your ears and realizing like it just takes one moment to go back and it would make a huge difference.
Speaker 3:So huge and it changes like how you show up, you know, so say you're like going to sports practice and like you feel that rise. It's like what do you want to do about it? You know, Because, like, if you want to get angry and worked up about it, like it's going to change the energy that everybody is operating in. Right, Because you do, you affect, like your kids, you know, like everybody at sports, like you have so much power, Katie. So it's like if you then decide, oh, actually I'm just going to be calm and I'm going to roll with it, and you guys, you know I don't have kids, but all of my friends, British, have kids and I love being around them. And I just noticed like there's usually like a mom who's like pretty, just like chill and like go with the flow energy, you know. And then you know people be like oh, like wow, Like that's cool, Like how she's just doing that it's not a big deal, you know.
Speaker 3:And it's like we all have that ability in our lives to be that person who can then show others like hey, we don't have to operate like everything's so stressful and we're late and we're behind, and like that is how change happens. None of us wants to live in a world where we're stressed out and overcommitted and overbooked and our blood pressure is high. You know, like we want to live in a world where we have peace and we have time to do the things that we want to do. But it starts with us and those little things, and so I think, like you're already doing it with, like, oh, part of my Zen status is maybe bringing that book and reading in between, One thing that you said, that I kind of operated like this for a long time, and maybe Shauna we've talked about it too where it's like after I get my work done, then I will have my reward.
Speaker 3:Right, it's like after I get everything on my to-do list done, then I'll have that. But guess what? The to-do list never ends If you're an entrepreneur or a mom or a wife or a partner.
Speaker 3:It's like you just keep adding, adding, adding, adding to it. And so now I make a list of things that I want to work on, maybe for a day, and instead of doing like because there's so many theories to be productive, you know what I mean. Like there's so many theories. It's like, do the hardest thing first or do the thing that you get most excited about, but, like, all of the theories that people share are usually things that work for that person, right? It's like this worked for me, and we're all so different. That's why there's so many different theories. And so I just look at my list and I'm like which one do I feel most excited about working on? You know, I work on it and I try to stay in the level of excitement, and as soon as that level starts to decrease, I take a break because I don't want to get to the point where I'm burnt out working.
Speaker 3:Because I find that when we work best is when we're excited and in the flow, and things can get done faster. When we're in that state, things can come together. Things can get done faster. When we're in that state, things can come together, things can get taken off of our to-do list and so it's like okay, instead of saying like, oh, like my work and my reward it's just. It's all just life, we're all just living and we're all just doing it. It's not good or bad, it's just. These are all the things that I want to do today. What am I most excited about? Okay, my energy is shifting. My blood pressure is rising. Whatever it is, that's time for me to take a break. I've done some work.
Speaker 2:So, so good.
Speaker 2:I love that the visual I was getting when you were saying that is just having this excitement meter right and watching it kind of flow, and then you know, being able to observe that and know, and, and, sarah, you've given us so much permission to shift that hustle, like we talk about on the show all of the time, and I just love how you connected the pieces there too, that when we give ourselves permission to shift that hustle and to slow down and to stop rushing, how much it flows to the other people that we're connecting with, and so there is this collective vibration shift when we allow that to happen.
Speaker 2:Oh, so, so good, friend. Yay, I'm glad that you liked it, love it, awesome, listen. I think we could go on and on and on and chat about this for hours, days, all of the things, but we want to be respectful of everyone's time. Of course, we love to keep these bite sizes we can, but, sarah, we want people to be able to come and be in your world more after they tune in here. So tell our listeners how can they connect with you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, of course. Thank you, Shauna and Katie for having me. This is great. This is so fun. So I'm on Instagram. I'm pretty active. You guys can send me a message. Let me know that you listened to the show. If there's anything that you have more questions about, Zen status, I kind of have a post where I wrote that out. I have a lot of meditations tapping into your intuition, Like I just have a lot of resources. Anytime people are asking me for things, I'm like, okay, let me create it, Happy to share it. Anything you know, anything that you guys need, you can always reach out. So I'm on Instagram. It's just my name, Sarah Hagstrom. It's like there's an underscore, but I think if you put Sarah Hagstrom you'll see my smiling face. And then I also have a podcast. It's called the why Can't I Podcast. So a lot of like confidence, spirituality, inner work episodes, business building, if you're an entrepreneur, are on there. So yeah, I'd love to connect in those ways.
Speaker 2:Love it. We'll make sure to get all of that in the show notes too, so that our listeners can tap into the beautiful energy that you are for all of us here. We love you so much, friend. Thank you so much for joining us today. Yay, we want to welcome you to tune in, stay close and grow with us. Come feel empowered, inspired and connected.
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